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Huh. I didn't know they used that word in 1616!
Eliz: TGA

From yesterday's defamation suit transcriptions: the witness "found the said Richard Davies and Anne Lloyd in Davies house verie suspiciouslie together and heard the said Davies saie to the said Anne, let me see thy cunt and thou shall see my pillocke." Who knew? I suppose I could OED every risque word I can think of to discover it's origin once and for, but where's the spirit in that? I much prefer to learn via research, as I did a few years ago, that "fuckt" was used as early as 1615. These are important discoveries, you know?

[Perhaps most amusing of all: to find this juicy tidbit this morning, I opened my transcriptions document and did a "Find" for the word "cunt." I never figured I'd be doing that in this project!]

And yet for all of that awesomeness? Still really, really want to be reading rahirah's seasonal_spuffy offering from yesterday and angearia's piece posted bright and early this morning. Go, now, friends! It's back to the film for me, so I have to put off fic reading for a bit, but at least I have something to look forward to when I'm done reading about early moderns who ought to have their mouths washed out with soap! ;)

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LOL! Oh, that's highly amusing.

I know! I gasped aloud when I saw it, much to the amusement of my film reading neighbors - they were no doubt covetous of *my* stuff (I was going to say "my goodies," but that sounds a bit too much like a euphemism! *snort*)

Hee! Oh, dirty, dirty Elizabethans!

My, my, we are tempting you with our luscious fic, no?

You are! You are evil, with your thousands of words...and your Spuffiness!

Back, demon!

I think your icon just put me into a state.

Am browsing with my iPhone, waiting for the fam to GO TO BED and stop interrupting me so I can enjoy the new barbverse!!

LOL I read this in my Yahoo! mail and couldn't for the life of me remember which icon I'd slapped in there. Then I came here and said, "Ahhh."


Could you remind me what you area of research is? I feel as though I've been told, but I have forgotten.

I'm a Tudor/Stuart social historian; my research involves courtship and marriage in northwest England in the eight decades before the civil wars (how's that for precise?! LOL We academics carve out our little niches, that's for sure). This trip has me looking at microfilm defamation suits to try to uncover broader social and interpersonal relationships within which to situate matrimonial formation and rupture.

It's such good stuff! :)

[I am Nerd!Girl - hear me roar!]

You realize that the next time I'm writing a story involving northwestern English Tudor/Stuart courtship rituals, I'm going to come bothering you. (You laugh! But I accidentally end up writing about lots of things I don't expect...)

I await your questions!

I actually got "courtship" on my schmoop_bingo card - I'll have to see what I can do to get Spuffy courting sixteenth-century style.

Oo, I just had a notion...

It'll be totally obscure, but that might be half the fun. ;)


What if the halloween costumes actually sent them back in time instead of just giving them confused identities?

Oh yeah

There's a street in London which was called Gropecunt lane until the Victorians had conniptions and called it Grape lane.

And Pillock is a lovely word

Excellent anecdote, my dear! :) [And coupled with a highly amusing icon!]

And what's up with LJ not letting me know about comments? *grumble*

Darn, someone got in before me with Gropecunt Lane...

Sentences you never expected to type: I knew about cunt, so I'm actually more interested in pillock. Didn't realise that was yet another modern word for 'stupid man' that comes from miscellaneous penis-euphemisms. (Or, I'm assuming that was what he wanted to show her. Not his pet twerp.)

Or, I'm assuming that was what he wanted to show her. Not his pet twerp.

And with this pair of phrases, my humor quota for the day is now met. ;)

Yes, it's a penis-ism. The first deponent actually avoided the c & p talk and very modestly described the parties' "privities." It was the three subsequent witnesses who used more specific language, and as the whole thing revolves around fornication, it's clear this was a case of "I'll show you mine if you show me yours"...in the downstairs parlor of a lodging house. Hmmm.

And from the OED s.v. pillock:

1. orig. Sc. The penis. Now Eng. regional (north.) and rare.

1568 D. LINDSAY Satyre (Bannatyne) 1491 in Wks. (1931) II. 388 Me think my pillok will not ly doun.

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